Fore Info December 2020

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Management Corner

AGM

The Club held a quorate and compliant AGM by Zoom on Friday 27th November, with both live voting and proxy voting ahead of meeting.

The AGM meeting was expertly arranged by David Maskery having spent a lot of time in research into other Club’s remote AGM’s and having taken advice on compliance with our Club rules. Zoom held up well and the meeting was continuous without any breaks in the online platform.

The AGM confirmed that Honorary Membership will be conferred on Brian Young who has been central to so much of the Club’s development, from a nine-hole course to the eighteen-hole course we play today. The Club lost a significant amount of land to the Alresford by-pass more than 30 years ago, and Brian was instrumental in securing replacement land ensuring a bright future for us.

All other motions were passed by a combination of both the live and the proxy voting methods, with more than 120 members taking part.

I was delighted that we were able to hold live discussions under AOB, on; suggestion to maintain some tee time booking post-covid, a suggestion to provide compensation for our members in 2020 due to the course being closed for two periods, and the membership schemes offered in 2020 in response to the emergency created by the Covid pandemic.

Re-Opening of the Course

The course will re-open following guidance from regulators and central Government. Tee times need to continue for now which will continue until such time as we are informed that they are no longer needed. It is the default position of the Club to return to golf without pre-booked tee times at the earliest opportunity. If there is sufficient interest in having some pre-booking in the future the Management Committee and Captain’s Committee will lead a full consultation of our members to ensure that all members have an opportunity to contribute their thoughts on the matter.

Clubhouse Development

The Management Committee has invited members of the Finance Committee to our next meeting in two-weeks’ time to review plans and finance options for the proposed Clubhouse development. A Special General Meeting (SGM) of the Club will be called should a preferred package of improvements and finance be approved. That SGM will be called with at least two-weeks’ notice with all full members being provided with detailed plans and costings so that informed decisions can be made at that time.

Head Professional – Mark Wood

I need your help! Mark first applied to become our Head Professional in March this year; and then after 6-months of interviews and planning he started with us on November 1st and was forced to close within a few days.

Mark, and his wife Mandy, have invested personal funds and much time in an update of the Pro-Shop and brand-new stock. Mark also has invested many thousands of pounds in ‘Flightscope’ which is a high-tech coaching aid which replicates your swing path, ball flight, angle of attack etc. He will also provide you with a video of your swing and pinpoint improvements and practice drills for you, following a lesson with him.

Mark has a price match guarantee for shop stock and will provide a full range of standard and custom fitted clubs from Callaway, TaylorMade, and Ping for example.

So; do check out the updated Pro-Shop on your return to golf at the Club, and do your Christmas shopping safely at your Club.

Management Committee

It is a privilege for me to be Chairman of the Management Committee, and act on your behalf; I thank the AGM for their ratification of my post for a further year. If you want to provide me with any feedback about our Club please do so by emailing me; chairman@alresfordgolf.co.uk. But do tell me good things as well as the not-so-good!

All existing members of the Management Committee were ratified to continue in post for another year, with a new Vice-Captain of the Club joining us for the next 12-months as usual.

Management Committee members are;

Chairman – Robert White

Chair of Finance – Ray Panter

Chair of Bar & Catering – Trevor Pearce

Chair of House – Sue Masser

Chair of Greens – Bob Moore

Vice-Captain – Simon Freemantle

Chair of Planning and Development – Nick Duncan

Membership Numbers

Our Club rules permit a total of 675 full members. Given the amount of golf each member now plays this is considered to be an outdated limit, but no change has been made in recent decades. The Management Committee will determine a ‘maximum number of Full Members’ policy, to be implemented this year, without a rule change at this time. It is likely that the Club will need to close to new members at some point during the spring of 2021, so that our course does not become over-crowded and that; as members we enjoy the privileges of a Club that really feels like ‘a private members’ club’, reflecting that our Club is owned by its members.

Any 2020 full member is guaranteed continued membership on payment of their 2021 membership subscription before January 31st 2021. After that date; lapsed members can re-join but it may be that the Club has taken on other members in the subsequent months and that we might have closed to further 2021 subscriptions.

So the simple message is; if you intend to pay your 2021 subscription, do pay on receipt of the invoice from David Maskery and by the very, very latest by January 31st 2021. If you might have some difficulty in meeting that date, do discuss it with David as he will be keen to help.

David Maskery – General Manager

The AGM conferred thanks and congratulations to David for an outstanding years’ work keeping us all safe and well-informed. David’s role has changed from that as a traditional Club Secretary, so I have moved his role, by agreement, to that of ‘General Manager’. On your return to the Club you will notice that the main office has been extended into Malcolm’s old office. This will help David to maintain confidentiality and to be undisturbed by members when he is busy. The new layout of the main office, will also provide a better impression for new customers and new members.

Robert White

Chairman of the Management Committee

From the Club Captain

Here we go then! 

We are back on the course, which looks to be in wonderful condition considering the weather.  

Great work Simon and team!  

I was able to join Caroline Warne as she acted as starter at 8:00 on Wednesday 2nd. 

The first group out was Les Widdicombe and Ed Fox. Huge smiles all round!  

First impressions coming along nicely.

Good to see the progress made on the winter projects. 

The new bunker on the first hole looks superb from the tee. 

The honour of being the first to find it from the tee went to Dudley George who was the 18th to tee off at 8:36.

 

Doesn’t he look pleased!

The AGM worked well in our virtual world.  It did seem strange making a speech to a computer screen and a live audience of one.  It was encouraging to see so many join in or register their views by proxy.

It has been a great pleasure for me to spend time with Mark and Mandy during their early days.  You will see the effort and thought they have put into the shop and studio.  Mark is raring to go! 

The Pro-Shop Christmas Raffle is open so please support and give yourself chance to win a prize.

We are hoping to get to play with many members over the year.  I can confirm that the Boxing Day “Captain-Pro” 9-hole Match will take place and details will follow.  For obvious reasons, this will be different this year.  Sadly, I’m not available for the match, but I’m delighted that Simon Freemantle will run this with Mark. 

In Spring, we will introduce a new Captain/Pro challenge trophy.  Again, detail to follow in the new year.

Simon and I look forward to working with Di, Gareth and Jenny over the coming year.  We are all proud and honoured to represent you.  Stay safe.  Let the fun begin!

Mark Tiplady

Ladies Section

November has been and gone in lockdown and at last we’re back on the golf course again. You will have a new Lady Captain to write this piece next month and all our new Captains are raring to go after such a frustrating year. 

Our Zoom AGM went smoothly, we were pleased we’d had a dress rehearsal! Huge thanks to David our General Manager for aiding and abetting. It was fun turning the page to see so many familiar faces during polling. 

The surprise of the morning was waiting to learn who was our Most Improved Golfer. Elaine Sutherland reduced her handicap by 4 shots, she is our new Hon Secretary & just happened to be holding the Trophy

(beautifully made by Keith Monkhouse) It’s a great achievement & very deserving.

Thank you all for logging in, I sincerely hope it’s the first & last time we ever have a Zoom AGM.

I received a fabulous bouquet of flowers the same morning from the Ladies which are being very much appreciated, so many thanks.

We have a result from the October Stableford

1st Mandy Overton, 2nd Gill Pratt,  3rd Carol Exton.

Each winning £20 on their bar cards.

We received a very grateful letter of thanks from the Charity Breast Cancer Now, having sent them £770. We were also able to send a contribution to the RNLI.

This landmark year has succeeded in adding more new words to the Dictionary than ever before. However, despite having to weather two lockdowns I’ve enjoyed being your Ladies Captain and I wish Di Peisley and her Committee a happy & successful year in office.

Mal H-M 

Mixed Matches 2020/2021

As you are all well aware nothing much happened by way of Mixed Matches in 2020.

However we do have a programme in place for 2021 and those courses we should have visited this year will be visited next year. 

Our first match will be away at Tylney Park on Sunday 18th April.  We also have mixed matches away to Petersfield, Corhampton, Rowlands Castle and  North Hants.  Both Rowlands Castle and North Hants were new venues for 2020 and a great addition to our Mixed Match list. 

At home we will be playing Hockley, Cowdray Park, Royal Winchester, Hayling, Bramley and Basingstoke. 

When the lists go up on the board in the foyer next year, please consider volunteering for these matches.  You do not need a playing partner and so long as you have a handicap you will be very welcome.  They are played in a very friendly spirit and a chance to play some amazing away courses as well as welcoming members from other clubs to Alresford.

I have looked after these matches for a number of years and enjoyed doing so, but because of other commitments I will be handing over the baton to Marion Bruce who had kindly agreed to take on the organisation.  Thanks, Marion.

So here’s hoping that next year’s golf happens as we hope.   In the meantime stay safe.

Jan Harring

Match Committee Report

WHS Transition

Not everything has gone smoothly with the transition to WHS. There have been and there are still various problems with both the England Golf platform and with the Club Systems software. For example, handicap allowances for mixed/multi-tee competitions are not being calculated correctly; also, the promised display of course and playing handicaps on competition sign-in has yet to be implemented. Hopefully as the weeks progress, the errors will be corrected, and the missing functionality delivered.

Turkey Trots

Provided there is no threat of frost and consequently temporary over the weekend of 5th/6th December, the Turkey Trots will be qualifying competitions. A decision will be made on Friday 4th December based on the forecast and if overnight frost is forecast then the Turkey Trots will be non-qualifying competitions as in previous years.

Sign-in, Scorecards, Score Entry

Important points: –

  • You may only sign-in for competitions on the day of the competition – from 06:00. Sign-in the evening before is no longer allowed. We will probably bring this time forward in the summer months.
  • You must put your Course Handicap on your scorecard.
  • For a competition, you may put your Playing Handicap (95% of your Course Handicap in singles Medal/Stableford) in the “Strokes Rec’d” box.
  • You must enter your score into the system by 23:00 on the day of the competition, so that there is time for the data to be transferred to England Golf for processing.
  • Scorecards for Men’s and Mixed Competitions should now be left in the Brown Box only. Scorecards for Ladies’ Competitions should be left in the box in the Ladies Changing Room.

Qualifying Competitions over the Winter

After 8th December, there won’t be any qualifying competitions until the end of February or beginning of March. This is to allow the Greenstaff flexibility in completing their winter projects without having to maintain a measured course. The knock-on effect of this is that we will not be able to accept Casual Play during this period.

Knock-out matches do not require a measured course so are not affected by this decision. However, there will be non-qualifying competitions organised by the Pro’s Shop.

Winter Eclectic

Unfortunately, this winter there won’t be a Winter Eclectic Competition for men. You may remember from previous years that this was organised and administered by a completely manual process, so as there have been so many other things going on of late it has not been possible to set this up in time. It will be back next year.

Winter Leagues

The Lombard 4BBB and Winter Mixed Competitions were both oversubscribed with the largest entry for almost a decade. The first 32 teams to sign-in for the competitions have been drawn into 8 leagues of 4 teams; the winners of each league will go forward to a straight knockout. The draw has been emailed to the teams. In view of the 4-week closure because of the lockdown and the reduction in the tee-slots the play-by date for the league phase has been extended to 4th April 2021. We suggest that any match where all players can play during the week is arranged for a weekday, and that it may become easier to arrange matches after Christmas. Please ensure that all results, identifying the winning team and the score, are written on the draw sheets posted on the notice-board.

Match Committee

I’d like to thank all the members of the Match & Handicap Committee for the work they have done over what has been a very busy and difficult year which included reorganising the entire fixture list after the resumption of golf to offer as many qualifying competitions to members as possible. David Robertson has decided to stand down after many years of sterling service, so we’re on the look-out for anyone who would be interested in joining the Committee.

 

George Clelland

A Look at the Rules

Question.

A player playing in a Stableford Competition, has taken too many shots and picks up.

The player then decides to practice their bunker shot on the same hole in a green side bunker.

  • After playing out of the bunker, the player takes two putts to hole out.
  • The player did not hold up play.

 

Is the player subject to penalty?

Vets Section

November started off very well with a victory at home over Corhampton (312  12 ), our first match in the defence of our Winter League title.

In winning we also maintained Ed’s 100% Winter League record – something we were keen to try to preserve and will be doing so for the rest of the season. I am fairly sure it will never be matched, but I’m certain we are going to give it a dam good try!

The Vets AGM Tankard, a couple of days later, was well supported with 45 members taking part. The winner was Steve Oldham who managed a magnificent 40 points, 11 of which came from the last 4 holes, to beat Andy Petley into 2nd place by 1 point. Although a frosty start on the day we were lucky to have fine weather which enabled us to enjoy a drink on the patio knowing that lockdown was only a few hours away.

While waiting for the final players to complete their rounds we were treated to a fly past by Gerry Collard in his Bristell. Gerry was enroute to Sandown for his regular flying assessment and kindly gave us to a demonstration of his airbourn skills. Not quite ‘Top Gun’ 😉, but good to see what the

Vets get up to in their spare time. Thanks Gerry and look forward to another invite.

After the flyby we were able to hold a slimmed down version of the Vets AGM which gave us the opportunity to give Ed a big thank you for being our Captain during what has been a turbulent year.  His final act was to present the few trophies that we had managed to compete for during the year:

  • Peter Armitage winning the Joe Kitchen Trophy,
  • Tony Brooking the Over 80’s Stableford and
  • Steve Oldham the rejuvenated Winter Roll Up.

The Annual Accounts have been posted on the Notice Board in the Club House, thanks to Ken Coburn for getting them out so quickly.

The ‘rearranged’ Texas Scramble will now be played on Monday 16th December. Again this event is being very well supported despite no Christmas dinner being available this year nor the opportunity to once again admire Bob Archer’s festive jacket!  

The closing date for entries is on the 4th December. Please contact Wynne Tufnell if you still wish to play.

The postponed Winter League matches have now been rescheduled for January and February.

I am very much looking forward to being your Captain this coming year and I am feeling optimistic that come the spring we will be able to resume our normal programme of competitions and matches.

Hope you all stay safe during the coming weeks and have a Happy Christmas with as many of your family and friends as the restrictions allow.

Gareth Rees

…from the General Manager

NEW ARRANGEMENTS

Out of lockdown into Tier 2.

  • Bookings can be made for a maximum of 4 players.
  • In this initial re-opening period and to assist as many members as possible having access to the course, Members may book one round of golf every 4 days. 
  • Members may book further slots ‘on the day’ if they are available via the Office or Pro-Shop only
  • Tee times are at 9 minutes intervals – it is therefore imperative that we all maintain a good pace of play and ‘call thru’ any groups that are being held up behind ( 1, 2 or 3 players). NO EXCUSES.
  • Introductory members may play at any time during this current period.
  • Academy members are restricted to after 2.00pm, but can play with a member outside of this time upon payment of the appropriate members guest green fee.
  • No guests or visitors are permitted at present.
  • Clubhouse – toilets are open for members use
  • Pro-Shop and coaching is available
  • Practice facilities and Driving range are open as normal – social distancing rules still apply.
  • The new Rijo42 Coffee Vending Machine is available 
  • The bar is not open.

MASKS should be worn in all areas of the clubhouse.

Please do not show complacency around the club – abide by the social distancing guidelines, wash your hands frequently and DO NOT come to the club if you have any of the virus symptoms. If you visit the club not to play golf i.e. to use the practice facilities, driving range or Pro-Shop, you must use the new NHS QR contact tracing poster situated in the driving range, foyer or pro-shop entrance.

If anyone does end up being tested and has confirmation of the virus – you must inform us for ‘track and trace’.

England Golf – WHS

The ‘My England Golf’ app is available for free download on both Apple and Google Play stores

Winter is on its way – Be safe on the Golf Course
RAIN / MUD / FROST / ICE = slippery golf course, especially grass banks, wooden sleepers and any untreated areas.

PLEASE TAKE CARE and keep to the paths whenever possible.

DO NOT walk on slopes.

DO NOT take your trolleys across the sides of slopes and banks

PLEASE adhere to any traffic management signage on the course

KEEP BUGGIES and TROLLEYS away from the edges of greens and tees

If the roads are icy in the morning on your way to the club – it is fair to assume that the car park and the paths around the club will be icy too! We do our best to grit and salt these areas but please take care.

FACEBOOK – check out our Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/alresfordgolfclub

Make sure you ‘like’ our Facebook page and you will link to it and get the regular pictures and updates on what’s happening ! Share with your friends to help us boost our online and social media profiles

 

Follow us at https://www.instagram.com/alresford_golf_club/

Subscription Renewals 2021
If you are considering changing category, please advise us before 10th December.

We will endeavour to send the majority of subscription renewal notices out to members via email again this year. Please ensure that we have your correct email address and pass this information on to any of your colleague’s if you think they are not receiving the FORE INFO. Any members who we do not have email addresses for will still have these details posted as normal.

We can accept subscription payments as soon as the invoices are sent out, however they are due on 1st January and you have until 31st January to receive your ‘on time’ bonus.

Sheep on the course

The sheep are baaaaaack. Social distancing still applies…

All members are reminded that entry into the sheep enclosure is NOT permitted.

Members with pace makers must stay away from the electric fence.

Any part of the general area of the course which is being used as a sheep enclosure is defined as an abnormal ground condition all of which is a no play zone. Rule 16.1f applies and free relief must be taken under Rule 16.1b. The nearest point of complete relief should be identified and a substitute ball must be dropped and come to rest in the relief area.

If it is known or virtually certain that a ball that has not been found is in the sheep enclosure, then Rule 16.1e applies. The player may take free relief under Rule 16.1b using the estimated point where the ball crossed the edge of the sheep enclosure as the spot of the ball for the purposes of finding the nearest point of compete relief.  If, however, it is not known or virtually certain that the ball came to rest in the sheep enclosure, the ball is lost and the player must take stroke-and-distance relief under Rule 18.2.

This local rule is not optional – all players must take note.

Have you put the Club V1 App onto your smartphone?To download the app please visit the App Store (Apple) or Play Store (Android) and search for ClubV1 Members Hub. The app is completely free. If you wish to download the Club app to your laptop or home computer use the web link below, creating a HDIDO registration as above and saving onto your desktop.

https://alresford.hub.clubv1.com

One of the key benefits of the app is that it will provide a secure access to members contact information. However, members must edit / confirm their details and privacy settings to enable other members to be able to access their contact details. Within the Members area you will also be able to view:

  • Course Status
  • Live Competition Leaderboard
  • Club News
  • Competition Results
  • Bar Balance and Receipts
  • Members List
  • Edit your personal details and privacy settings (You must ‘opt in’ for other members to be able to view your contact details)
  • Club Diary

Please inform the club if you wish your name to be not visible to other members.

We fully expect changes and guidelines to playing access. It is therefore important that members are able to keep up to date with course availability and any notifications.

The App is an easy way for us to send out information. 

David Maskery

Green News

Getting you back in the ‘swing’
Whilst it felt that “Lockdown 2” arrived quickly the Green Keepers took it in their stride and having removed tee markers and pins immediately switched into the winter development projects as we had some dry weather and firm ground conditions to move chalk and soil.

  • The 1st white medal tee was promptly stripped of turf and duly extended as planned; Likewise the new red tee was started (until some heavy downpours put them on hold).
  • The 12th white medal tee was also stripped and extended, but could be progressed much more being drier such that it’s nearly ready for the turf to go on.

However the total bonus of lockdown from the course point of view was the ability to create the new 1st Fairway bunker without golf balls whizzing past. We are really pleased with the outcome in “shaping the hole” from the tee to emphasise the dogleg and is pretty much exactly as proposed by the Hawtree Report

Ash Die Back
Some of the smaller Ash dieback work has started particularly near to the Academy Course. As mentioned last month we will be planting some new trees as a form of compensation with the economics of hiring a tree spade as opposed to new saplings being borderline.

New Starter!
Thankfully the planning permission has been granted for the new Starters Hut which will need to be in position before the existing one is split and reutilised. The lead time on the new

hut has improved dramatically which is also great and should anyone have an urge to help us with it’s assembly and treatment do please get in touch.

New Range?
The new practice nets are about to be ordered so look out for the new base being constructed to the right of the entrance to the Range.

Singing the  Blues?
We are considering adding forward blue tees as seen on many courses to aid players coming onto the course from the Academy or those struggling with the distances required. Feel free to let us know what you think.

Course Conditioning

  • Greens have been aerated to a depth of 3 inches with 15mm solid tines and aerated again using the verti drain with 12mm solid tines to a depth of 6 inches.
  • Nutrition continues with ‘turf hardeners’ and ‘liquid irons’ being applied along with ‘penetrants’ to break up the surface tension and allow water to move through quicker.
  • Disease pressure has been very high this month resulting in a third application of fungicide, unfortunately fusarium is visible on some greens with the 11th worst affected and this has been caused by prolonged leaf wetness and humid conditions as the driver.
  • A dew suppressant was applied to stop dew forming on the grass blade and this will help keep any more disease at bay, a tricky one to apply at this time of the year as the surface has to be bone dry for the product to work.
  • Tees and Aprons have had an application of wetting agent and iron, this will help reduce worm casting and dry them out quicker.
  • Tees, Aprons and Fairways continue to be cut once a week.

Fighting t’Hawk

Birds continue to peck areas around the course, all fairways areas are being cleaned up soiled and seeded.

To combat this a falconer has been visiting the course twice weekly and flying a Harris Hawk and two Falcons the idea being to warn off, and possibly attack the crows.

The main problem being the grubs in the ground that Crows feast on. We will also try to encourage Starlings, as they also eat the same grubs, but do so in a less destructive way!

Attention to Detail

  • ‘Patch work turfing’ has been completed around the course on areas around bunkers and greens; New bunkers on 4,5 and 13 have had a strip of fresh turf around the edge where it burnt off in the spring.
  • Leaf clearing has proceeded, but at a slower pace than normal. Thankfully most of them are down now, so there will be a big clear-up before we re-open.

Welcome Back!
On re-opening, you need to be aware that:

  • The 1st fairway bunker will be lift and drop with a white line around the area,
  • The 1st tees will continue to be under construction with all play from the current yellow tee.
  • The new Practice swale remains closed to let the turf settle.
  • The 12th tee is under construction so a temporary tee mat has been positioned for White and Yellow Tees. Red tee is open as normal.
  • Local rules will still apply for bird damage and the area where the sheep are grazing.

Bob Moore
Chair of Greens Committee

A Look at the Rules

Answer.

Yes

  • As the player had picked up, they were not completing play of the hole and were therefore practicing during the round.
  • Two shot penalty to be applied to the next hole.

Notes;

  • If the player’s ball was in the bunker when they decided they couldn’t score and then played on, the player would not be penalised as the player is entitled to play out the hole.
  • The player is allowed to practice by chipping near to the green or putting, but not allowed to practice bunker shots.
  • If on last hole no penalty as round was completed. Rule 5.5b.

100 Club

The winners of the 100 Club prize draw for December 2020 were:

£100        Chris Brandon-Trye

£50          George Hand

£32          Ray Panter

£32          Keith Halls

£32          Mandy Overton

£32          Richard Calton

Congratulations to all our winners.  This is Mandy’s first ever appearance in the winners list so don’t give up if you’ve not won anything yet – your time will come!  Next month’s draw will take place early during week beginning 14th December in time for Christmas so look out for the results on the Secretary’s board in the entrance hall.

For those who may not have seen the 100 Club Financial Report in the recent AGM papers you may be interested to know that we paid out £3,402 in prizes during 2020 and after allowing for uncleared cheques will carry forward £13,708 to the new year.  This figure reflects the fact that no

projects or items were paid for by the 100 Club during the year but during 2021 we will be funding the new Starters Hut.  Our membership has remained steady with new members offsetting those who have left the golf club.

If you would like to be part of the 100 Club and actively contribute towards future enhancements to our facilities, and have the chance of winning a cash prize each month, then why not join us.

The monthly draw is for six cash prizes: £100, £50 and four at £32.

Each share cost £1 per month paid for by monthly standing order and there is no limit to the number you can purchase.  Members generally have between 1 and 10 shares with 5 being the most common holding.

For further information about the 100 Club and its history please refer to this section in previous editions of FORE Info.  Application forms can be obtained from the Secretary’s office or from me –  Pat Wallis phone 01420 564417 or email peterpat51@outlook.com

Meanwhile let’s hope for a cheerful Christmas despite the restrictions imposed upon us and lots of good golfing in 2021.

Pat Wallis

Results

Men’s & Mixed Competitions
There were no results in December
Ladies' Competitions
There were no results in December

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